Iv read and listened to lots of different people speak against this devotion but it never changed my mind. De maria. When making comments please consider that there is a tsunami of baptized Catholics following us who dont have the foggiest idea of what is going on in the Church, and that popular blogs no matter what their angle may be the platform they have to grasp the issues. From what Louies stated himself, he welcomes all voices whether blunt, shy, up front, in your face or the opposite as well as the sedvacantist voice, as mine is. If sedevacantist friends or family have done that to you, or anyone, its a shame. Priest: Fr Gerard Saguto FSSP. There are so many dangers coming down the pike that I find it hard to believe this issue is taking up so much air time and energy. arochial Vicar and Assistant Pastor; a man who Mr. Carroll clearly idolized. But everyone one who has signed off on VII by professing obedience to it and its heresiarchs is outside the Church. Ottawa, ON The authorities of the FSSP have been notified about all this just as Father Paul Nicholsons Bishop was about his demonic actions. hi, scott, FSSP Missions For anyone who wishes to gain knowledge on the position, the information is out there. They prefer the Traditional Mass for sure but they are not going to cause any scandal to other Catholics by being disobedient to the Pope even when doing so would help to save souls. Thank you Barbara! Saguto, Fr. the point central to the sedevacantist position -that being the Roman Catholic Religion. Light and life to all He brings, throwing light on our blind spots, provided of course that we give the Infant in the Manger the attention He rightfully deserves. English-speaking Chaplain . In this, Michael Voris protests too much. Lexington, KY IMHO, no one is going to learn anything about the Faith here in this combox or any other. Loving father of Michael,Ginamarie Lutzky and Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP. Certain nearby FSSP priests were drawn into the controversies. I suppose that you wont change your mind, as you have said that you already looked at the links above, but I wanted you to know (with my greatest respect for you) that the Lazarus story does not add strength to the thrice-condemned divine mercy case. Dear Louie, General Chaplain Father Stefan Reiner. In one such frame, a building that houses a ladder company is on fire, and as the employees look out from a third story window, the caption has them wishing how they could find a way to climb down. Our only fault is that we have not taken this position. 4th group SSPX canonically founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1970. Rapid City, SD Following post talks about SSPX censorship of sermon criticizing Francis: Gerard Saguto, FSSP, North American Superior for the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, made a pastoral visit to Mater Dei on Sunday, March 6th, offering the 9:00 AM Sung Mass and the Benediction following the Mass. Philadelphia, PA Many people think the Dimond bros are fanatics (God knows what they would think of St. John the Baptist, Jesus Christ or even St. Paul or St. Catherine of Sienna etc.) So the horror continues and the FSSP..same story. Walker) will be the pastor. I am also friends with a few current and one former FSSP priest. We would like to express our deepest gratitude to Fr. Nashua, NH In our troubled times, make it a personal initiative through Advent (and perhaps beyond) to invoke the Holy Ghost daily, that He indeed stirs up this treasure-chest of graces we hold within ourselves and our families. You have inaccurately classified & also inaccurately defined the sedevacantist position. It is indeed a shame that there is not a single fully traditional Catholic college in the country. That said, no Catholic at any time ought ever to turn their back on another Catholic. Yet, he sticks with it like glue. Tacoma, WA The obituary was featured in Newsday on June 14, 2009. Catholics are watching and waiting. North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA Dear piokolby, Look, Ive met FSSP priests who are wonderful men who have good relations with their brother priests in the SSPX and vice versa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX75xiW2Z54. I think it is excellent. The SSPX is not and never has been in schism. The clown Masses, the lack of faith on the part of leaders, the abuses, the watered-down catechesis, the lesbian nuns, the gay priests, the destruction of the Faith by religious orders, and on and on. Our Lord sees everything. Incomplete, because it does not take sufficiently into account the living character of Tradition, which, as the Second Vatican Council clearly taught, comes from the apostles and progresses in the Church with the help of the Holy Spirit. Dear grandfather of. FSSP NA on YouTube He is EVIL. Church. Clarkdale, AZ *** Lets revisit what Voris (and Fr. Calgary, AB May God reward you for all your kind generosity! Gerard Saguto, FSSP was born and lived on Long Island, where his mother continues to live. If Ratzinger is leading people to hell, denying the divinity of Jesus Christ, contradicting Jesus Christ (re: valid covenant of Jews) and committing sacrilege, Ratzinger is NOT good. In fact, there seems to be an unspoken standard for comparison about what constitutes a home: home is supposed to be a place of security, stability, and safety, a place where one found love and learned about life, was educated and allowed to mature, so as to engage and contribute well to the larger world outside it, and remained always a place one can return to for a needed respite. Voris- shmoriswho cares? Saguto is an excellent priest but he needs to stop perpetuating this lie and he needs to order his priests to do the same. 8:00am Preparation for Mass*. This link is more succinct. 6th group sedevacantism those who belong to this group regard the chair of peter vacant there are different variations/groups of sedevacantism but mainly beleive there hastnt been a true pope since the death of pope pius xii 1958.1 of the main reasons they beleive this is that a formal herectic cannot hold office and therefore places himself outside the church. El Paso, TX The benefit and usefulness of suffering is evident in such instances, at least in hindsight. Thank you for your kind response which I believe to be as sincere as my question. But when we try to support one when it does emerge, we have to be clear in holding them up to high standards of governance. Saguto (FSSPDistrict Superior) 31 May 4:30pm St. Victor Church in Hollywood (Los Angeles) ORGANPROCESSIONAL Organist: Meaghan King 120. I dont follow Mr. Voris. marian, Voris and Fisher more college are just the latest in a long line of horrors. Indeed we are often victims of true prejudice-marginalized as lunatics, bazaare, on the fringe or fringe groups, etc. Dallas, TX LiveMass.Net Increasingly, Voriss obsession (which apparently is driven in some way by his backers, Mr. Carroll and Fr. Faith must begin in Him, for faith is a meeting of two personalities Christ and me. Whether you believe the Pope IS the Pope (but in grave error and behaving as a Heretic) or the Pope IS NOT the Pope (for the same reasons), the fact remains that we are all suffering Catholics, striving to restore what is birthright membership through Baptism in the True Church of Christthe Holy, Roman Catholic Church. Gerard Saguto, FSSP, and the liturgical artist, Mr. Paul Sirba. This argument is fair enough; objective reality isnt subject to legal pronouncements. I'm not there often just because of distance and time of day on my bike. They are not coming out with press releases, video responses and challenges, threats to sue, etc. However, over the last year and a half U.S. dioceses and religious orders serving most of the Catholics in the country have released lists of "credibly accused" abusers who have served in their ranks, using their own criteria for whom to include. You said it much better than I. I was immediately attacked when I posted a response. Catholic families (WITH CHILDREN) have broken up because the FSSP Priest told Catholics they were not licitly married because they were married by a SSPX Priest. These three priests will raise the total number . Don't forget to buy yourself a copy here! May none of us ever become so prideful as to claim immunity. But they are for the most part Catholic. The majority of sedes beleive the new mass invalid due to the new rites doubtful priestly ordinations possibly invalid and majority beleive episcopal consecreations in the new rite invalid. Fr. Schedule is subject to changes. Priestly Fraternity of St, Peter (FSSP) poses a whole slew of ecclesiological, doctrinal and moral problems. Los Angeles, CA They ignore him as youd ignore an ant at a picnic. Not good enough for some here. your above comments are quite smug and patronizing. There is enough hurt going around from anti-Catholics both outside and inside the Church, without throwing daggers at each other. Most of the time unfortunately it falls into a type of group. Since the fruits got worse and worse he understood that he needed to protect souls and to warn them about the dangers to their Faith. Why did the SSPX priest so advise certain persons? Whether an FSSP supporter is willing to admit it or not, he implicitly accepts the orthodoxy, legitimacy and/or intrinsic goodness of the Novus Ordo, ecumenism, religious liberty, communion in the hand, liturgical dance, server-ettes, If we want to be charitable, we could possibly say that its because of the treatment of sedevacantists described above, that a small number of sedes respond to other trads in a kind of a backlash mode, if you will. Louie, your excellent blog is being hijacked. Chesapeake, VA The Church is Christ, in her visible human element and invisible divine element, living through the ages in such a way as to be a place of dogmatic and moral security as a house built on rock, and where one understands how to love and live from the Person who is Life itself. He is in control, and our fidelity in things both small and large is what obtains for us the supernatural insights into His very life and designs. Providence, RI Id also like to see the currently all pervasive Heresy itself honestly made a point of discussion, without sentimentality or appealing to emotions which we all have wrapped up in this topic. Minneapolis, MN He knows very well that the Council and the new Mass both are causing people to lose the faith. Eric Flood, FSSP, who served in that position for the last . I pray that Catholics (on BOTH sides of this issue) read your response and learn that the real enemies of Our Lord love confusion and division. Presumably because (generally speaking) the FSSP priests avoid directly criticizing the dangers inherent in the new Mass and the Council (as Voris once did) as well as the words and deeds of the pope. (Ive read more of his ramblings than I care to acknowledge.). Could you please provide a link or more information on the closing of Fisher More College and how it relates to Michael Voris? Dear de Maria, If you are going to give official platforms to statements rejecting the validity of Vatican II and the Pauline Missal without any public correction or disavowal, you have to be prepared to take the ecclesiastical consequences, whether theyre just or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX75xiW2Z54. Will the FSSP issue a public statement saying that Father Wolfe does not speak for the FSSP and his views are his own? Those who have ears will hear, those who have eyes will see. Philadelphia, PA I got news for all of us here. I love the Saint so much. If I found myself in a place where only an SSPX or Norvus Ordo were available, I would choose the SSPX, hands down, and I would know it was valid thanks to Fr. Anyway, IMHO, knowing this & taking it into account one can still certainly enjoy this fabulous film. Tyler, TX You have entered an incorrect email address! Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. IMHO what you point out is important. 2022 TheCatholicSpirit.com. I do believe that theres a thread of influence and someone as familiar with these personalities as Louie would do well to explore it. That constancy, Father Saguto said, is important in a world where constant change is the norm. No they did not. So, what exactly will change at the stroke of twelve? But they didnt. This is the depths to which mens minds can sink when they are not moored to the pursuit of truth. I have learned much from your links over the past several months and appreciate your insights. The accusation that I luv those who want to destroy the Church is an obfuscation. Checks can be written to "Mission Tradition." New - Meal Train - Calling all those who want to grow in love of neighbor! Father Gerard Saguto, District Superior, FSSP "The thought-filled articles of Latin Mass provide an opportunity for needed reflection to help the thoughtful Catholic navigate the gauntlet of our modern secular society." Monsignor Barreiro Wolfe is in some way, if not directly, but indirectly involved in what we are seeing play out. I saw how they themselves maintained true & loyal friendships (which I happen to know continue to this day,) with fellow Catholics who were at odds with them w/regard to these matters. All of us have a duties as Catholics. As dysfunctional as the Church can be in her human element and she is it is perfect love of Christ Crucified, our Eternal Contemporary as Ven. Fraternity Publications You should do your homework and talk to someone on the inside before you repeat the biased assertions of Taylor Marshall. I, too, had learned much from Fr. 3littleshepherds1, Orlando, FL Wolfe has apparently been rather willing to speak about Vatican II in strongly condemnatory terms, and he also openly criticized Pope Francis in various sermons, although typically on weekdays when they are not recorded. Saguto is FSSPDistrict Superior in the United States: Insanity has been described as "doing the same over and over while expecting different results." Time and again I have tried to make clear that pocket recordings do not faithfully reproduce choral sound. I think some charity is in order here. Under the standard of Christ? Saguto was removed for violating rules about not being alone with a minor apparently. And yet magically, come midnight Dec. 8, 2015, zilch will, according to the pope, turn into the jurisdiction necessary to validly and licitly hear confessions and offer absolution. FORT WAYNE. john6 Edmonton, AB Below, Ill provide in italics what I consider the most noteworthy parts of Voris videos such as they have been released to date, with my commentary immediately to follow. A cardinal such as Cardinal Burke should speak the truth no matter what the modernist destroyers want. The abandoning took place with the founding document ecclesia dei in 1988 and was made more clear in 2003 with the FSSP constitutions. FSSP Missions Mr. Peter McShurley ('14), Rev. Paul has been designing and carving ecclesiastical interiors for the past several years. Looking at what happened at Fisher Moore College in the light of the attacks from Voris this week and in the light of the attacks on Father Gruner the night of his death by Father Paul Nicholson this is all clearly a manifestation of the demonic. Congrats. Why all the differences in opinion here ??. Where to begin? https://akacatholic.com/providential-propers/#comments I must admit, I am not a typical traditionalist but have read my way through hours of debate over the defense of tradition and have come across many resources, such as this forum, that have given me a formation that I wouldnt have guessed having even just 5 years ago while still assuming that I am even to this day light years away. Joseph Terra (hes the FSSP priest who was badly beaten in the attack in Phoenix that killed Fr. The opinions of Voris are small potatoes when you look at the big picture. I pray the chaplet everyday at 3-00oclock God willing. Finding little support, the faith infused at Baptism is stifled and choked by the thorns of the world, and it becomes easy to drift away. Simon Harkins, FSSP as we begin the conversation on August 31st, featuring a fascinating interview with Abby Johnson on her pro-life work and her recent discovery of the beauty of the sacred liturgy. Now I suppose he is throwing darts at it. One of the greatest problems facing Catholics who are trying to understand the crisis is a lack of distinctions and a lack of proper definitions. In exercising one of mine here, it must be said that the Dimond Bros. teach against several Sent.certa teachings of Holy Mother Church. As one who was there for this sermon (and many more), and class, I firmly state that he has NEVER attacked the SSPX. Youll note CMTV covered that school in an on-site special just as loyalties were pulling at its seams. This rendition of an Internet TV Network has NOTHING to do with the Catholic Faith. I was still reading his blog almost daily when it all transpired, and can remember it not sitting well with me after hearing his explanations. Richmond, VA I really appreciate the space provided here in regards to the excellent content being discussed. The FSSP offers the Mass according to the form that was in use prior to the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s. Can we just let Michael Voris get on with his shtick? This is my weak attempt at trying to make things easier for new readers etc to understand the different positions. Visit https://sacredliturgyconference.org/ for information about the next conference and how to register. I feel sorry for Michael Voris. Mine is no1. Beloved husband of Marie (nee Corallo). Grega's departure from the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter could have been given. by Fr. First and foremost, however, one must be willing to take a good hard look at the conciliar texts and the new Mass and apply ones intellect as informed by faith. It cannot be said in correct, exact, and precise terms that there is a schism. These are the signs of an unstable mind. Thomas Paprocki. If interested, you can contact her at 612-450-0273 or gemmarose974@gmail.com. But the combox is just getting too much. Thank you for this honest report, Mr. Verrecchio. There are validly consecrated priests & bishops worldwide to shepherd & provide (valid-it must be noted,) Sacraments to the faithful by the thousands. Wolfe. While it had varied levels of success, it was an interesting approach, because this reality of the Catholic Church as a home often escapes Catholics when they consider what the Church actually is. Zilch. On behalf of all of the members of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter, the Superior General and his Council would like to express their great thanks to Fr. A suggested donation for the Nigerian apostolate is $10.00 per scapular. Baltimore, MD Fort Wayne, IN Until then, Ill continue to uphold the duty of engaging his folly here such as Im able. It was also taken in response to related concerns that Father Saguto had failed to observe the safe environment protocols of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis for interaction with minors (e.g. (Or he was last time I was around there, at any rate. Oklahoma City, OK The FSSP are bad actors. Even Pope St. Pius X refrained from making that kind of judgment against the modernists, even as he condemned them with great force in Pascendi. Really? This comes about in various ways. Seattle, WA Wolfe. Most noteworthy here is his utterly preposterous assertion that the SSPX came about in response to some amorphous weakening of the Church.. ** He pretends he never believed anything other than what he spews today. As such, the pope can make a formal declaration of schism based upon the SSPXs refusal to accept the errors of the Council, and guess what? North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA. Im pretty much thinking the same thing. We are blessed to be able to host Fr. If I do, in fact, belong to an exclusive club, I would hope it would be as a Catholic faithful who adheres to the unchanging tenets of the Catholic Church as Christ established it. Call Father Wolfe and ask him about the SSPX! What they ultimately have lacked, though, is a real sense of contact, intrigue, and love with a Person. But we preach Christ and Him crucified. Phoenix, AZ This is the document that created the FSSP. Ive never described myself as an expert on Vatican Council II, but Michael Voris has described me as such, on air, and even ribbed me in a good natured way saying We dont do false humility here when I resisted the idea. Fr. God love you! May God love you. For the person who knows that the Council is a grave danger to the faith, they have no problem advising against them allowing themselves (and their kids) to be formed in an FSSP parish since we have an obligation to engage those things that threaten to lead us away from the faith. Los Angeles, CA And what does Taylor Marshalls video have to do with the closing? The majority do beleive there were true popes since 1958. Think of it as pulling back the curtain on the little man of OZ (Voris). I dont remember reading anywhere that Sr. Lucy said that diabolical disorientation would be the sole purview of liberals or modernists. In real life, the sounds I hear are absolutely luscious and absolutely glorious. When I speak about the FSSP I am speaking about the group as such. Agree. The Bishop did not stop Nicholson. But how to do so when belief seems so uncertain or dark? The Missive Tags: Catholic Extraordinary Form, FSSP, Tridentine Mass This is a bit off topic, but are you aware of why Fr Flood is no longer in charge of the N American FSSP? Also, the cardinal mentioned Fr. ARCHDIOCESE OF ST. PAUL & MPLS. You have some excellent points in your comments, but I agree with Mr. Matt on this one. http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2015/09/is-fsppx-going-to-celebrate-jubilee-of.html. Wolfe) said earlier: Schism is not something that comes into being by a legal declaration. Sad. Catholics are STILL watching and waiting. Allentown, PA Mater Dei Catholic Parish 2030 East State Highway 356 Irving, TX 75060 Phone: (972) 438-7600 Email: - info@materdeiparish.com Their jurisdiction is supplied by cannon law because they beleive there is a state of emergency in the church because people are in danger of losing the catholic faith. Unfortunately, it is about to go the way of The DuMont Television Network, which was more entertaining. Wolfe. This reality does in fact place the FSSP under the standard of Satan objectively. Lincoln, NE It includes those who, through no or >>limited<>>limited<<< fault of their own. They do beleive a pope can be a formal herectic and maintain his postion as pope , the new mass is valid all priests are considered vailidy ordained and the bishops in the new rite are fine aswell. Zero. I think Novus Ordo Traditionalists, in my opinion are generally of goodwill, but actually end up causing scandal through false obedience. Especially in light of the context in which hes stepping up his attack with the Pope extending a remarkable olive branch to Econe and disastrous developments in annulment law and the ominous maneuverings underway for the Synod Against the Family.. The early Christians were hiding from the pagans in their day, says Michael Matt in this video: But the new campus lease turned out not to be sustainable, either, just a reprieve in execution of sentence, and it is astonishing to me that he thought it could be otherwise. All it takes for evil to happen is for good people to do nothing but keep walkin along w/Pope Francis. No sedevacantists disagree on this. Who do you say that I am? Faith is a gift. Refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff by the Society can be seen in their refusal to reconcile and place themselves under the authority of the Vicar of Christ, rejecting his dogmatically defined full power of shepherding, ruling and governing the universal Church, a power ordinary and immediate over all the churches and over each and every member of the faithful.. As such, he looked upon the SSPX and its purpose for existing with, if not with support, a degree of understanding that is now nonexistent. These Catholics focus heavily & almost continually on Bergoglio-who is not the problem. That man left MUCH to be desired..even my 18 year old son (at the time) was appalled by the mans evasiveness over extremely serious matters of the Faith. INTROIT "Gaudeamus" Score Sung without organ accompaniment by men only Conductor: Jeff Ostrowski To access the rehearsal files, go HEREand scroll down to 31 May. Besides its probable connection to ChurchMilitant.coms zeal against the SSPX, the unraveling of Fisher More College (the presidents fiscal leadership aside) is a stark study just how quickly Church power will coalesce to suppress an institution whose express mission is Traditional Catholic Formation (unless of course the institution was grandfathered in and has swallowed every conciliar tenet proffered since grandfather died). Wolfe FSSP is true and public. Ad Orientem: Why is the Mass Celebrated Facing East? When Pope John Paul II had the Assisi meeting Archbishop Lefebvre pleaded with the good Cardinals like Siri and Oddi to make a public protest to defend the honor of the Church. His last day at Mater Dei was 8/30/2015. We all have blind spots about ourselves and situations we may be in, and the realization of such things can be quite the exercise in humility. Post navigation Register Now. I do get it that your comment here was not meant to be an intensive treatise. I too have been guilty of using the combox to lay off my personal frustrations, and I have also used uncharitable language. Qubec, QC However, there are a couple of ways to regain perspective and renew vigor. S testigo de la experiencia de la. The bottom line, in my opinion, is he is merely a distraction from the real issues facing the Catholic world and the world in general. Gerard Saguto, FSSP. Nada. Member of the traditionalist Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter. Furthermore, I do agree that Louies blog and the comments that follow are an excellent vehicle for enlightenment during these dark times. I worship in an SSPX Parish and I know full well why Im there. The real truth of the matter is that some of them are not doing or saying what piokolby wants them to do or say. Richmond, VA I absolutely have always loved this film. I am only asking this question in the hope that you can shed some light on this kind of behavior. 1:00pm Keynote Speaker - Dr. Robert Loretz. This side of eternity, there will always be a certain obscurity to Faith because God wishes that we walk in trust of Him; He wants to lead us because our sanctification is His work with our cooperation. There can be room for disagreement but not when its Our Lord Himself speaking. VII & that which was borne of it, a Modernist Sect, is the problem. Nashua, NH The SSPX, Church Militant, and many other Catholics recognize the deep crisis that has been brought about by weak leaders, corrupt leaders, homosexual leaders, feminized leaders in the Church for the past fifty-odd years. Confraternity of St. Peter Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary Fr. Look more closely into the factions and personalities in and around Irving that split up Fisher Moore College around 2012-14, and you just may find your answers as to whose motives now motivate whom. Sometimes we are trite, blunt, even silly. But, respectfully, I cannot agree that the FSSP has abandoned Christ through their current status. It was sent in by a parishoner when the FSSP got the personal parish. Brookville, IN Be convinced that He always leaves His runaways with a key to get back into the house. They dont a one-size-fits-all approach to this topic. Barbara, I applaud that. Nicholson) with the SSPX marks him out as, Im afraid, something of a fanatic. Tyler, TX Charity is not spelled luv. dear rich, It may seem ironic, but I have zero tolerance for that. Terra as hes still not quite 100% in his health. Michael Voris has a bee in his bonnet and he has boxed himself into lambasting a group that just goes about its business without giving him any attention at all. Hello john6. I think they wanted an experienced priest to help Fr. Dear Alarico, His visit was strictly Fraternity business; he is visiting all apostolates in connection with his duties as Superior General. Which means that because these others dont beleive certain things it gets people start to say you shiuldnt believe this or that. As you say, hopefully someday he will be humble enough to admit his error. Louie, your blog does not rise and fall by my participation. 1 reason is the position we take. This is a defense of the SSPX not an attack on FSSP or Father Wolfe, personally. The worst criticism of the SSPX sure comes from the Novus Ordo Traditionalists. What went on at Fisher Moore College is not known. Louie will never bore a reader, guaranteed. They accept the council and while there are priests that personally may object even tell certain parishiners this or that they have by joining one of these groups accepted romes position that the second vatican council is part of the church and tradition. Dear DeMaria and my2cents, In truth, that the SSPX didnt actually run anywhere is the problem: Just one full-communion Catholic educational environment where debate over the impact and soundness of a monumentally disruptive 50 year old council might take place? 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