The Big Picture Forum – We want more discussion – Updated
Gaming the Law / This is how we change the narrative.
RE: BBC Interview with Victoria Derbyshire, Tuesday 21st July
video by Gordon Swire
They have a script + that script is the narrative, the narrative is the official voice of the establishment. An interview is not an exchange, they never pick up on the reply of the interviewee but proceed with the script. This means that the narrative doesn’t change, the public don’t fill in the gaps or the objections. It’s simply the received opinion.
When Victoria Derbyshire interviewed me, I insisted on finishing my answer which meant she had to reply. It became a discussion by which means I managed to change the narrative. Victoria was puffed up with her status as a journalist of the BBC meaning that she has official authority / The BBC are recognised as an impartial authority, but they do not deserve this status. I don’t respect the BBC. I’m not one of the interviewees who just stands in line + doesn’t quibble when I don’t have the chance to finish my opinions.
The BBC is not impartial, they are the pillar of the corrupt establishment, an e.g of how the establishment lies is the gaming of the law. Habeas Corpus, ‘U have the body says, when U arrest someone U have 2 charge them + as soon as possible, put them in front of a court of law.’ Julian Assange was arrested by UK because of an allegation! + given bail at £250,000 – an outrageous sum plus house arrest.
The real motive 4 trapping Julian was that US wanted his extradition 4 telling truth about American war crimes: UK + Sweden would hold him whilst US prepared its case. Julian therefore sought asylum + Ecuadorean Embassy accepted him as a political prisoner. By law, he should then have been allowed to fly to Ecuador, but instead UK invented its idea that bail should take precedence over asylum. Of course it shouldn’t, there is no precedent for this.
The Press has presented Julian as someone who is escaping justice, squirreling himself away in the Ecuadorian embassy. The Embassy accepted Julian as a political prisoner, yet UK said! If U put yr head outside this Embassy, we will arrest you on bail charges (Catch-22). Don’t forget he already paid a crippling bail charge + 2 years house arrest counts as one year in jail.
It is illegal 4 anyone 2 invade an embassy + drag out a political prisoner who has been given asylum, + so, this is how the Press lies. This cartoon shows the strong arm of the law holding an abject little puppet in the air in triumph. Julian was actually shouting, ‘This is illegal!’
In this month’s London Review of Books, Patrick Coburn writes (comments italicised in brackets are mine):
Nils Melzer UN Rapporteur on Torture:
“Melzer describes an investigation that was politicised from the moment on 20 August 2010 that two women, then known only as AA and SW, went to a police station in Stockholm ‘to inquire whether Mr Assange could be compelled to take an HIV test’.
(They had each said the sex was consensual. Then the police changed their statements.)
Within hours, ‘the Swedish prosecution ordered the arrest of Mr Assange and informed the tabloid newspaper Expressen that he was suspected of having raped two women.’ Over the next nine years, as the investigation was repeatedly closed by one prosecutor only to be reopened by another, Sweden regularly indicated that it wanted to question Assange, but in practice showed little desire to do so or to bring the investigation to a conclusion. The main effect of the stop-go judicial proceedings was to keep the controversy over what Assange did in Stockholm in 2010 on the boil. The Swedish government finally replied to Melzer’s letter in November only to say that it had ‘no further observation to make’; the following day the investigation was formally closed.”
(For lack of time – they had 9 years! There was no substance.)
None of this is likely to change the way Assange is seen. In keeping with past experience, almost no mainstream news outlet paid any attention to Melzer’s questions about the conduct of the case. The world’s biggest newspapers, which had published the WikiLeaks disclosures on their front pages in 2010, distanced themselves from Assange very shortly afterwards, often declaring that he was a difficult person to deal with or was slapdash in his handling of the US government cables and reports. He was accused of being a ‘narcissist’, as if that were something more than a character flaw, or as if his character flaws – whatever they were – had any bearing on the information that had been revealed.
Given the gravity of the issues at stake, the silence of journalists about Assange’s detention in Belmarsh following Ecuador’s revoking of his asylum status is striking. Here was evidence of a radical shift in US security policy, towards the position taken by countries like Turkey and Egypt, which have sought to criminalise criticism of the state and to conflate the publication of news it doesn’t want the public to hear with terrorism or espionage. The creeping suppression of press freedom in Hungary and India is frequently criticised by the Western commentariat. But, as Glenn Greenwald has pointed out in the Intercept, Western media have ‘largely ignored what is, by far, the single greatest attack on press freedoms by the US government in the last decade at least: the prosecution and attempted extradition of Julian Assange for alleged crimes arising out of WikiLeaks’s … publication – in conjunction with the world’s largest newspapers – of the Iraq and Afghanistan war logs and US diplomatic cables’. They couldn’t jail the editor of the New York Times so they pursued Assange instead.”
The case of Julian throws a light on govt. corruption worldwide + as such, it’s very important that I include Freedom 4 Assange as part of my campaign in exposing corruption + save .
Portland! Check out our playing cards. Spades are for the Motherfuckers, the Capitalists who fuck the earth.
I did wonder how the inclusion of information relating to Assange could be relevant to a Climate Change website.
I think personally the thrust of your argument for climate change should rest with the Climate, rather than an imprisoned journalist whose situation shall become clear in due course; let the system take its course and it shall be resolved one way or another.
The Climate on the other hand needs to be the subject of much Media Attention, and swift action is required beyond its present rate.
Comment by Anonymous on 28/07/2020 at 8:42 pm
I strongly believe that you need to properly weigh up the niceties of the issues you are dealing with in your campaigning, Ms Westwood.
For you must look at the number of lives at risk in each of the issues which are in focus, and in Assange’s case it is his life at steak.
However in the case of climate change, you will find that it is multiples of millions, probably billions, along with many different species around the world, including coral reefs (no more diving!) and a plethora of plants and animals; the whole ecosystem.
The Climate in my opinion outweighs by far the issues you have with the Journalist in Belmarsh. Whilst its clear you have a lot of compassion for Assange, please ensure the same amount of compassion is had for the countless millions of people affected by climate change, particularly in less developed nations, and coastal areas.
Dont be too distracted by lesser issues, when a person of your public standing and media presence could achieve so much for greater causes.
Comment by Anonymous on 28/07/2020 at 9:09 pm
Anonymous- what a load of rubbish! This isn’t a lesser issue at all, it’s one of the biggest legal cases of the century and it all feeds into each other. ‘Yeah let’s all focus on the bees and ignore the fact that our governments are breaking their own laws and sanctioning the massacre of innocent people, along with throwing anybody in prison that dares to speak out about it! What does it matter?! It’s only one man!
Comment by Patrick on 29/07/2020 at 5:17 am
You clearly are confused about this Patrick; This is meant to be a Climate revolution website. However there is serious mission creep onto othrer issues happening. Assange has nothing to do with the Climate.
And when it comes to the more important issue, the threat posed by climate change presents a much greater challenge where many more lives are at risk.
If i had the choice to save the number of lives caused by the prosecution of Wikileaks, and the number of lives lost in climate change related deaths, along with our whole ecosystem, climate change is the far more superior issue.
Do you really just think climate change is going to, or has only affected bees?
Vivienne, your diverting from the most important issue of our times (Climate Change) on a website which states it is to focus on that issue.
Comment by Anonymous on 29/07/2020 at 10:23 am
I would like more detailed information about the climate and how to resolve this.
Not a study on an imprisoned journalist.
Comment by Anonymous on 29/07/2020 at 10:27 am
I am surprised by people’s comments. Vivienne should be using every platform possible to raise awareness of Assange and the corrupt government/mainstream media.
I was appalled by the BBC Interview with Victoria-how anyone can believe the BBC are impartial after observing that?
Comment by Anonymous on 30/07/2020 at 7:37 pm
You are a person who happened to catch my eye a long time ago, but now I see, through your social networks and your book, that you are a person who thinks and does, just like me, and who uses fashion in a smart way to make your audience think, where I see my biggest source of inspiration. I got here through your videos, which still don’t make sense to me, but I think this is a big thing and what saddens me is that there are no big discussions about it. It seems that people don’t care about these matters.
I confess that I am ignorant in terms of politics and history, but I would like to learn from you, in the time that I can discuss these ideas, being able to contribute in some way, because I also always wonder about the world good and what would be the great pain we face to have so much inequality and suffering in the world.
Is there really an ONLINE forum?
I believe that at the moment when everyone is concentrating online, there is a need for a forum like this.
From Brazil
Comment by Sthefanie on 03/08/2020 at 1:58 am
Regarding the comments by anonymous that the Climate Revolution website is going off course by campaigning for Julian Assange, I would like to make a couple of points.
1. Have a look at the history of this site. You will find many articles about many things.
2. They all connect to climate change. Climate change is happening because of the economic model humanity is using.
Most people do not seem to be bothered about changing this system. They are more bothered it seems in trying to get to the top of this system themselves (or at least to stay afloat).
Journalists like Julian Assange have revealed the evidence that this system is based on lies, theft & murder.
In order to deal with climate change, the people who rule this system have to be underminded & replaced, as they themselves will never give up their privileged position until they are forced to do so.
That’s why they want to ‘knobble’ Assange & any independent thought.
…..And it is why we must fight to save him!
Comment by ben westwood on 27/08/2020 at 3:15 pm